The Next Conclave — Those That Will Officiate

by Anura Guruge

Four Related Articles: 1. Over 80 Rule 2. Dean may be excluded
3. Camerlengo and The Major Penitentiary

4. Precedence Among Cardinal Bishops

This is the fourth (and hopefully last) article in a series about those that can participate in the next conclave — promoted by the London Times howler on May 10, 2010 that talked about Cardinal Sodano, as the Dean, attending the next conclave — though he is already 82, and thus two years over the mandatory, inviolable 80 year cut-off for conclave participation.

Please refer to the three articles referenced above for more details on conclave participating, role delegation and rules of precedence.

This is the list of the ‘Officers,’ both cardinals and non-cardinals, that will officiate at the next conclave (if it were to be held in the ‘near’ future with 80 denoting 80-year cut-off.]

CARDINALS:
1. Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church. 80, NOT-deputizable.
College of Cardinals will have to elect a new, but interim, Camerlengo.
—-current: Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone [b. Dec. 2, 1934], 75.
Can participate and do so for the next 5 years.

2. Dean of the College of Cardinals. 80, Deputizable by Vice-Dean
(or next most senior Cardinal Bishop)
—-current: Italian Cardinal Angelo Sodano [b. Nov. 23, 1927], 82.
Cannot participate.

3. Vice Dean of the College of Cardinals. 80, Deputizable by senior most Cardinal Bishop present
—-current: French Cardinal Roger
Etchegaray [b. Sep. 25, 1922], 87.
Cannot participate.

4. Senior most Cardinal Bishop (after Vice-Dean). 80, Deputizable by next in line per precedence … even if it is the senior most Cardinal Priest present
—-current: Italian Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re
[b. Jan. 30, 1934], 76.
Can participate and do so for the next 4 years.
[Earlier confusion as to whether Cardinal Re actually was the most senior had to do with a hitherto undetected translation error in the 1914 Catholic Encyclopedia! Please read << this >>]

5. Senior most Cardinal Priest. 80, Deputizable by next in line per precedence within the order of Cardinal Priests
[in contrast to the case with Cardinal Bishops, it is impossible to envisage a conclave with no Cardinal Priests.]

—-current: Brazilian Cardinal Eugênio de Araújo Sales [b. Nov. 8, 1920], 89.
Cannot participate.

At present the senior most Cardinal Priest under 80 is Belgium Cardinal Godfried Danneels [b. June 4, 1933]. << Thanks Marko >>

6. Senior most Cardinal Deacon. 80, Deputizable by next in line per precedence within the order of Cardinal Deacons
[though improbable, in theory, it would be possible to have a conclave with no Cardinal Deacons in attendance. If this ever happened, the junior most cardinal priest would have to perform the roles expected of the senior most Cardinal Deacon]

—-current: Italian Cardinal Agostino Cacciavillan [b. Aug. 4, 1926], 83.
Cannot participate.

At present the senior most Cardinal Deacon under 80 is Italian Cardinal Sergio Sebastiani [b. Apr. 11, 1931].  << Thanks Marko >>
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MAJOR PENITENTIARY
Is not always a cardinal — as is the case right now. Not permitted within the conclave unless he is an under-80 cardinal.
If post is vacant prior to or if the incumbent dies during the sede vacante the College of Cardinals via a secret ballot will elect one of their own as the interim Major Penitentiary. It does not stipulate that they have to elect one who is under-80. If the incumbent dies during the conclave, the cardinal electors, in conclave, will, most likely, elect one of their own as the stand-in.

1. Major Penitentiary.
80, NOT-Deputizable. Not required within conclave
—-current: Italian Archbishop Fortunato Baldelli
[b. Aug. 6, 1935].
Cannot participate since he is NOT a cardinal.
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VICARS GENERAL & CARDINAL ARCHPRIEST, VATICAN BASILICA
The Cardinal Vicar General of Rome, the Cardinal Vicar General for Vatican City and the Cardinal Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica retain their posts during the sede vacante.
Upon being notified by the Camerlengo, the Cardinal Vicar General of Rome has the responsibility of informing the people of Rome as to the
sede vacante.
None of these three, however, have any specific duties to perform within a conclave.
If there is no Vicar General of Rome during the
sede vacante his duties will automatically be performed by the Vice-Vicar, i.e., the Vicegerent. If there is no Vicegerent, then the senior most auxiliary bishop of Rome steps in.
The Apostolic Constitution, Universi Dominici Gregis, does not specify what needs to be done if there is no Vicar General for Vatican City or a Cardinal Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica. One assumes that a non-cardinal deputy will do the needful until a replacement is appointed by the new pope.

The pope can appoint non-cardinals to all three of these posts. Vicar General of Vatican City may also be Archpriest of the Basilica.

1. Vicar General of Rome. 80, Deputizable from within the see of Rome. Not required within conclave
—-current: Italian Cardinal Agostino Vallini [b. Apr. 17, 1940]. 70

Can participate and do so for the next ten years.

2. Vicar General for Vatican City. 80, Deputizable from within the Vatican City hierarchy. Not required within conclave
—-current: Italian Cardinal Angelo Comastri
[b. Sep. 14, 1943], 66.
Can participate and do so for the next fourteen years.

3. Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica. 80, Deputizable from within the Vatican City or Basilica hierarchy. Not required within conclave
—-current: Italian Cardinal Angelo Comastri [b. Sep. 14, 1943], 66. << same as above >>
Can participate and do so for the next fourteen years.


NON-CARDINALS

These officials are required to participate within the conclave, BUT since they are not cardinals they cannot vote nor be in the Sistine Chapel when ballots are being cast.
Since they are not cardinals, and as such non-electors, their age is immaterial.


1. Secretary of the College of Cardinals. If needed, a temporary deputy will be appointed by the College, if needed
—-current: Italian Archbishop Manuel Monteiro de Castro
.
Cannot cast any votes or be in the Sistine Chapel when the electors are voting.

2. Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations. If needed, a temporary deputy will be appointed by the College, most likely from within the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff
—-current: Italian Monsignor Guido Marini
.
[He is not related to his predecessor, Piero Marini who held this post from 1997 to 2007]

Cannot cast any votes or be in the Sistine Chapel when the electors are voting.


There are a few others that attend, such as two Masters of Ceremonies, an assistant to the ‘Dean,’ a contingent of Confessors etc., but these are not ‘officers’ per se and are chosen prior to the conclave. Thus their names are not known ahead of a conclave.

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6 thoughts on “The Next Conclave — Those That Will Officiate”

  1. Dear Anura, two fact considering senior most Cardinal Priest under 80 and senior most Cardinal Deacon are incorrect. The senior most Cardinal Priest under 80 is Godfried Danneels from Belgium (born in 1933, created Cardinal in 1983), the second is Joachim Meisner, the Archbishop of Cologne, Germany (born in 1933 as well, created Cardinal in zhe same consistory i.e. in 1983). Next follows Ricardo Vidal from the Phillipines (1931/1985), then Paul Poupard, France (1930/1985). Simonis is currently on the fifth, Law on the sixth place. Similarly, the senior most Cardinal Deacon under 80 is Sergio Sebastiani (1931/2001), followed by Zenon Grocholewski (1939) and Walter Kasper (1933) who were created Cardinals in the same consistory of 2001. There are two more electors preciding Barragan (1933) and created cardinals in the same consistory of 2003: Jean-Louis Tauran (1943) and Renato Raffaele Martino (1932) .

    1. Dear Marko,
      I fixed my two errors.
      Acknowledged YOUR help.
      I only mentioned Law because he is so well known. <>
      I screwed up. I was in a HURRY.
      PLEASE help me out on these matters. I need all the help I can get. A lot for one person.
      Cheers.

    2. Dear Marko,
      Do you KNOW about precedence for the Cardinal Bishops?
      1731 ruling said it is per their episcopal consecration. 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia confirms that.
      We can’t find any rulings after 1917 that seems to have changed that.
      If we go by the 1731 ruling … Re is not the next most senior!
      A number of us looking into this … this afternoon.
      Many thanks.
      Anura

  2. the senior most Cardinal Priest under 80:

    Godfried Danneels (Belgium, 1983)(until June 4, 2013)

    Joachim Meisner (Germany, 1983) (June 4, 2013 – December 25, 2013)

    Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez (Dominica Republic, 1991) (December 25, 2013 – October 31, 2016)

    Vinko Puljić (Bosnia&Herzegovina, 1994) (October 31, 2016 – September 31, 2025)

    Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson (Ghana, 2003) (September 31, 2025 – October 11, 2028)

    Josip Bozanić (Croatia, 2003) (October 11, 1928 – March 20, 2029)
    (archbishop of my diocese)

    Philippe Barbarin (France, 2003) (March 20, 2029 – October 17, 2030)

    Péter Erdő (Hungary, 2003) (October 17, 2030 – June 25, 2032)

    1. Dear Marko,
      Very useful. Thank you. At MY AGE I consider 3 years to be a LONG TIME. <> Much can change by June 4, 2013. Who knows maybe the pope may get around to having ANOTHER consistory to create some new cardinals.

      Marko, my BIGGEST concern now is that of seniority, precedence, among the cardinal bishops … after the Dean and Sub-Dean.

      It would appear, that at a MINIMUM, all the lists we have, for example at these conclaves, http://www2.fiu.edu/~mirandas/conclaves.htm, for the period 1731 to 1913 … possibly 1961 … are suspect. I know that the lists for 1769, 1774-175 and 1845 are wrong. I didn’t check many more.

      So IF you have any data or ideas, it would be much appreciated.

      Thank you.
      Anura

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